Comments on: Pub in a church (building) … http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/ Sam Metcalf's blog about a new generation of leaders for the global church. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:36:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Brian Francis Hume http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/#comment-15563 Brian Francis Hume Sat, 23 Jun 2007 04:02:56 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/#comment-15563 I mistakenly wrote "contain" new structures, and meant to write "contain" their new growth. Sam, I am enjoying your blog so far and I've been a link on my blog in order to expose others to fresh dialogue regarding new apostolic paradigms that are emerging today around the world. Thanks for your commitment to fulfill your call in this capacity. We are a part of a great church here in Fredericksburg, Virginia. They utilize the acronym CARE to help explain what they are all about: (1) charismatic (2) apostolic (3) Reformed (4) evangelical Often the charismatic segment of the body of Christ gets too focused on the "functionality" of the apostolic vessel, whereas, it seems that you have some fresh insight for the practical outworking of the apostolic ethos. I believe that both is important. Blessings, Brian I mistakenly wrote “contain” new structures, and meant to write “contain” their new growth.

Sam, I am enjoying your blog so far and I’ve been a link on my blog in order to expose others to fresh dialogue regarding new apostolic paradigms that are emerging today around the world. Thanks for your commitment to fulfill your call in this capacity.

We are a part of a great church here in Fredericksburg, Virginia. They utilize the acronym CARE to help explain what they are all about: (1) charismatic (2) apostolic (3) Reformed (4) evangelical

Often the charismatic segment of the body of Christ gets too focused on the “functionality” of the apostolic vessel, whereas, it seems that you have some fresh insight for the practical outworking of the apostolic ethos. I believe that both is important.

Blessings,

Brian

]]> By: Brian Francis Hume http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/#comment-15495 Brian Francis Hume Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:16:09 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/#comment-15495 Keith, I hear your heart in this matter and I can identify with your thoughts. I suppose it is one thing if the church itself "exploded" within that given community and had to find new structures to "contain" their old buildings. Unfortunately, these buildings are symbolic of bygone eras that failed to perpetuate the apostlic mandate within their God-assigned context. Hopefully this will motivate us to examine our own lives, ministries, churches, etc., to ensure that we have a vibrant and dynamic faith to pass on to the next generation, versus a stale, stagnant "faith" that is powerless to change lives. Keith,

I hear your heart in this matter and I can identify with your thoughts. I suppose it is one thing if the church itself “exploded” within that given community and had to find new structures to “contain” their old buildings. Unfortunately, these buildings are symbolic of bygone eras that failed to perpetuate the apostlic mandate within their God-assigned context.

Hopefully this will motivate us to examine our own lives, ministries, churches, etc., to ensure that we have a vibrant and dynamic faith to pass on to the next generation, versus a stale, stagnant “faith” that is powerless to change lives.

]]> By: Keith http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/#comment-15170 Keith Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:22:42 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2007/06/19/pub-in-a-church-building/#comment-15170 The word I'd use to describe my visits to churches turned into museums, pubs, gay bars, mosques, warehouses, and city halls is: grief. I know the Church isn't a a building, but building were used to hold and thus symbolically represented the Body of Christ. While on one hand, I work to get the Church out of buildings and into the community, it's still sad for me to see church buldings go to completely secular use for a lack of Christian faith among it's former members. Symbols are important to humankind. And these old church building are symbols of the state of Christianity in Europe. Unfortunately, they are all too accurate. The word I’d use to describe my visits to churches turned into museums, pubs, gay bars, mosques, warehouses, and city halls is: grief. I know the Church isn’t a a building, but building were used to hold and thus symbolically represented the Body of Christ.

While on one hand, I work to get the Church out of buildings and into the community, it’s still sad for me to see church buldings go to completely secular use for a lack of Christian faith among it’s former members.

Symbols are important to humankind. And these old church building are symbols of the state of Christianity in Europe. Unfortunately, they are all too accurate.

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