Comments on: Edison the Innovator http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/ Sam Metcalf's blog about a new generation of leaders for the global church. Fri, 16 May 2008 10:00:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Sam http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-19184 Sam Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:00:39 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-19184 <p>Joe: Thanks for the comment. Just visited your site and would be fascinated to interact with you more about what you're learning regarding movements in the Latin world.</p>

Joe: Thanks for the comment. Just visited your site and would be fascinated to interact with you more about what you’re learning regarding movements in the Latin world.

]]> By: Joe Cross http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-19183 Joe Cross Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:50:58 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-19183 Great window into Edison's life Sam. I love it. Great window into Edison’s life Sam. I love it.

]]> By: Brian Newman http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-792 Brian Newman Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:59:07 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-792 Hi Sam, I appreciate your honesty and openness! I am also struggling with seeing the local church in America being in maintenance mode, and trying to discern what alternative ways of being church look like. Blessings to you and the folks at CRM. I appreciate you guys a lot. Hi Sam,
I appreciate your honesty and openness! I am also struggling with seeing the local church in America being in maintenance mode, and trying to discern what alternative ways of being church look like.

Blessings to you and the folks at CRM. I appreciate you guys a lot.

]]> By: Sam http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-789 Sam Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:35:17 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-789 Brian, Some apostolic gift projection on my part? Absolutely. A reaction to the "fossilized church" in the western world? Undoubtedly. Probably more what I am emotionally responding to are those forces-- internal and external-- that pull CRM toward more insitutionalization as we have aged and expanded. We've not been immune by any means to the life-cycles that are inherent in any organization or movement. I find it a subtle but constant struggle to keep the entitity from slipping into a mantainence mode. So if I am punching, I am punching mostly at myself. Good to hear from you. Hope you're doing well. Brian,

Some apostolic gift projection on my part? Absolutely. A reaction to the “fossilized church” in the western world? Undoubtedly.

Probably more what I am emotionally responding to are those forces—internal and external—that pull CRM toward more insitutionalization as we have aged and expanded. We’ve not been immune by any means to the life-cycles that are inherent in any organization or movement. I find it a subtle but constant struggle to keep the entitity from slipping into a mantainence mode.

So if I am punching, I am punching mostly at myself.

Good to hear from you. Hope you’re doing well.

]]> By: Brian Newman http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-788 Brian Newman Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:21:39 +0000 http://www.undertheiceberg.com/2006/10/04/edison-the-innovator/#comment-788 Sam, Isn't it sort of fashionable in our time to take shot at institutions and the process of instituionalization? Dare I say that CRM is not only a movement but also an institution after some 25 years of existence? I wonder with your blog entry if there might be a couple of things going on (perhaps, I do not know you that well, so excuse my hypothesizing) 1. You are gifted and called apostolically. Is it possible that there is some gift projection going on? 2. You are reacting to the Church of the 20th century that in most parts of the western world has "fossilized." Thus, there is an emotional or almost cathartic aspect to what you are writing. I appreciated your insights a lot. I just wonder sometimes if it's too easy to use institutions as our punching bags. Blessings, Brian Sam,
Isn’t it sort of fashionable in our time to take shot at institutions and the process of instituionalization? Dare I say that CRM is not only a movement but also an institution after some 25 years of existence?
I wonder with your blog entry if there might be a couple of things going on (perhaps, I do not know you that well, so excuse my hypothesizing)
1. You are gifted and called apostolically. Is it possible that there is some gift projection going on?
2. You are reacting to the Church of the 20th century that in most parts of the western world has “fossilized.” Thus, there is an emotional or almost cathartic aspect to what you are writing.
I appreciated your insights a lot. I just wonder sometimes if it’s too easy to use institutions as our punching bags.
Blessings,
Brian

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